http://water4gas.com/

[moses]

Err what??? 

Am I missing something here, or are they breaking multiple fundamental laws of science here!
I guess it's like adding magnets to your fuel line, but this time you get to see bubbles. 


http://water4gas.com/

[Justrovin]

Years back, after wading in the river with Pig, I miraculously had a 3/4 tank coming out, when I only started out with 1/4 tank. Didn't run the same either.   

[101]

If I heard about this same thing and remember it correctly: You use electricity from your alternator to break water into hydrogen and oxygen, then burn the hydrogen. And they explain this is not perpetual motion because it is using water as fuel. The laws of thermodynamics are just theories.

[Peter Knowles]

However, electrolysis is an energy conversion, as is burning the hydrogen and oxygen.
The increased drag on the engine caused by the alternator load must be greater than the energy recovered from returning H and O in the combustion chamber.
Unless the addition of hydrogen acts as a catalyst and improves the efficiency of the regular fuel air charge.

Not that hydrogen isn't an exciting fuel. Make lot's overnight from a wind turbine, compress it (that's the hard part) and then burn it in your engine all day, sounds great eh?


Cheers

[101]

About 20 years ago I read a proposal to save a large part of the losses that occur when electricity travels long distance over electrical lines. Say from northern Canada to the more densely populated places. Use the electricity generated at the hydro stations to convert water into hydrogen and oxygen. Truck the hydrogen closer to the cities and use it to generate the electricity there.

[Peter Knowles]

For those interested, a brief summary of the exhaustive B&E report on hydrogen as a transport fuel.

http://planetforlife.com/h2/h2swiss.html

Cheers

[101]

Pete,

Those are different conclusions from the ones I read 20 years ago and last year.

[a109]

Back in the mid 90s I was invited to a seminar by a company devoted to just this proposal. As a believer in hydrogen as fuel I attended with the idea of a possible investment.
 They had a small display of hydrogen being generated from water using a 12 volt system.
As the seminar progressed it became clear that whole thing was a pyramid scam where each "investor" was to sell shares to other investors and absolutely no mention was made of the product and how it was to be manufactured and marketed. The response to questions about product,manufacturing and selling were responded to with a mantra "first build the company and all else will follow".
I walked away.

John

[Justrovin]

Back in the mid 90s I was invited to a seminar by a company devoted to just this proposal. As a believer in hydrogen as fuel I attended with the idea of a possible investment.
 John

This was at the Metro center in Halifax right?  hahaha

[yellow109]

Paul Pentone has made Engine GEET.
I already seen on the net, landrover 2.25l diesel conversion.

A lot of information can be find on the net.

http://www.geetfriends.net/netdocs/onnouscachetout_eng.pdf

[xrover]

Unless they plan on using water from the Bay of Fundy, fresh water is a finite source, and one we of course need for our bodies.